Category: Women’s health · Menopause · Bone and joint
Two Years After Menopause with Dry Skin, a Past Foot Fracture and Knee Crepitus: What Collagen Really Does, How to Choose Calcium, D3 and K2, Protein in a Two-Meal IF Day, and Evening Blood Pressure
AI Overview / Quick Answer (BLUF)
Dry skin and bone loss after menopause stem from falling estrogen. Collagen peptides modestly improved skin hydration in trials but do not treat osteoporosis. After a fracture past 50, get a DXA scan and FRAX first, eat 1.0–1.2 g protein/kg daily, and check home blood pressure.
bone loss around menopause (SWAN),
the evidence on collagen and skin,
guidelines for treating postmenopausal osteoporosis
and NIH background on osteoporosis.
Warning signs ·
Dry skin and collagen ·
Past fracture ·
Calcium, D3, K2 ·
Protein in IF ·
Knee noise and blood pressure ·
Comparison table ·
FAQ
From a women’s health group: about two years after menopause, dry skin and a past fracture. Which collagen or supplement helps?
One member in her early 50s, about two years past menopause, has very dry skin, once fractured a foot bone and had swelling around the other ankle, and hears knee noises climbing stairs.
Her blood pressure runs somewhat high and she feels lightheaded in the evening. She eats two meals a day in an intermittent-fasting window, skips sugary drinks and pastries, walks several thousand steps daily, and asked which collagen or supplement to take.
The short answer: her habits are a good base, but a fracture after 50 matters more than which supplement brand to pick.
The first step is a doctor’s assessment of repeat-fracture risk. Collagen helps skin a little, and calcium choices should start from how much comes from food.
For calcium basics, read
Do you need extra calcium after menopause, or are vitamin D3 and K2 the gap?
Warning signs: see a doctor or go to hospital promptly
Direct answer: lightheadedness with very high blood pressure, or stroke-like symptoms, is an emergency, and a low-trauma fracture raises the chance of another fracture about 1.86-fold, so it deserves assessment
(AHA/ACC 2025,
Kanis 2004).
Go to hospital now, or call emergency services (1669 in Thailand)
- Blood pressure of 180/120 mmHg or higher with a severe headache, chest pain, breathlessness or blurred vision
- Facial droop, weakness or numbness on one side, slurred speech, unsteady walking, or sudden loss of vision: possible stroke
- A fall followed by hip, leg or ankle pain that stops you bearing weight
- Sudden severe back pain after lifting or bending: possible vertebral collapse
Book a doctor within a few weeks
- Home readings of 130/80 mmHg or higher again and again, or frequent evening lightheadedness
- A fracture from a standing-height fall after 50, or height loss of about 4 cm or more since young adulthood: ask about DXA
- A knee that swells, feels hot, locks, gives way, or hurts at night
- Any vaginal bleeding more than 12 months after the last period: always needs a gynecologic check
1. Dry skin after menopause: how much collagen is lost, and how much does taking collagen help?
Direct answer: estrogen stimulates skin fibroblasts to make collagen. After menopause, skin collagen and skin thickness fall by about 1–2% a year,
in parallel with bone loss
(Brincat 1987,
Affinito 1999).
Why skin gets drier and thinner
Skin biopsy work found type I and type III collagen falling with years since menopause.
A review concluded that estrogen after menopause increases skin collagen, thickness and elasticity and lowers the chance of dry aging skin,
with the same effect seen in connective tissue of bone and blood vessels
(Calleja-Agius 2012).
Collagen peptides: the skin evidence
A meta-analysis of 19 randomized controlled trials with 1,125 participants aged 20–70 found that hydrolyzed collagen taken for about 90 days
improved hydration, elasticity and wrinkles more than placebo. The effect is modest and lasts only while you take it,
and the body digests collagen into amino acids and short peptides before absorption rather than delivering it straight to skin
(de Miranda 2021).
Where each collagen type lives
Skin is mainly type I collagen with type III. Bone uses type I collagen as the scaffold that calcium phosphate mineral binds to. Joint cartilage is type II.
Undenatured type II collagen at 40 mg a day lowered pain, stiffness and function scores in knee osteoarthritis more than placebo over 180 days, but that trial did not measure joint noise
(Lugo 2016).
The undenatured form keeps its triple helix, which is why it is dosed in tens of milligrams. The “30% collagen loss in 5 years” figure comes from small early skin studies;
it was not measured in bone or cartilage, and collagen does not rebuild worn cartilage.
2. A fracture after 50: why it matters more than choosing a supplement
Direct answer: a prior fracture raises the risk of the next one about 1.86-fold, and bone density explains only a small part of that risk.
The Endocrine Society guideline calls for estimating fracture risk with country-specific tools before treatment decisions, together with nutrition, exercise and fall prevention
(Kanis 2004,
Eastell 2019).
When bone loss is fastest
SWAN followed 862 women and found bone loss starts 1 year before the final menstrual period and stays fast until 2 years after it.
Over 10 years the spine lost 10.6% and the femoral neck 9.1%; women of Chinese and Japanese ancestry lost bone faster.
About two years past menopause is therefore a sensible time to assess bone
(Greendale 2012).
Around menopause = 1 year before to 2 years after the final menstrual period. Bar lengths are scaled for comparison.
What to check: DXA and FRAX
DXA measures bone density at the hip and spine and reports a T-score. FRAX
uses age, weight, height, fracture history and other factors to estimate 10-year fracture probability. The fractures that count as risk factors are low-trauma ones, such as a fall from standing height.
If risk is high, bisphosphonates (such as alendronate, risedronate, zoledronic acid) or denosumab reduce fractures, which supplements cannot replace
(Eastell 2019).
DXA also has nothing to do with blood pressure, so waiting for readings above 140/90 before checking bone is not a criterion.
Dry skin, poor sleep, hot flashes or lightheadedness: what level are your menopause symptoms?
Assess your severity level and get personalized guidance from our Advisory team. This score sorts menopause symptoms into self-care, book a doctor, or go to hospital promptly.
It is not a diagnosis and does not replace a bone density test or blood pressure checks. If you have any warning sign above, go to hospital without waiting for a score.
3. Calcium, vitamin D3 and K2: how to choose, and how far the evidence goes
Direct answer: get close to 1,200 mg of calcium a day from food first, then supplement only the gap.
A BMJ review found dietary calcium was not associated with fracture risk and evidence that calcium supplements prevent fractures is weak and inconsistent;
in the trials at lowest risk of bias there was no effect on fracture at any site
(Bolland 2015,
NIH ODS).
Calcium forms: look at elemental calcium
Supplement labels often list the weight of the compound, not elemental calcium. Calcium carbonate is about 40% calcium by weight, calcium citrate about 21%,
and calcium L-threonate about 13%, calculated from molecular weight. Absorption is best at no more than about 500 mg per dose,
and total intake from food plus supplements should stay at or below 2,000 mg a day from age 51.
Table: calcium forms
Elemental calcium percentages are calculated from the chemical formula; absorption depends on stomach acid and meals.
| Form | Elemental calcium | How to take | Human evidence |
|---|---|---|---|
| Calcium carbonate | About 40% | With food, since it needs stomach acid; may cause constipation or bloating | Used in many fracture trials |
| Calcium citrate | About 21% | Can be taken on an empty stomach; suits people on acid-reducing drugs or eating few meals | Well absorbed; more tablets needed for the same calcium |
| Calcium L-threonate | About 13% | Large amounts needed to supply enough calcium | No randomized trials measuring bone density or fractures |
| Food: milk, calcium-fortified soy milk, firm tofu, small whole fish | 1 glass of milk (240 ml) about 300 mg | Spread across both meals | Also supplies protein and other nutrients |
Vitamin D3 and K2: what they do and do not do
VITAL gave 2,000 IU of vitamin D3 a day to 25,871 adults not selected for vitamin D deficiency or low bone mass, followed for 5.3 years,
and found no reduction in fractures versus placebo. Vitamin D matters when you are deficient or when a doctor pairs it with osteoporosis medicine
(LeBoff 2022).
Vitamin K2 as MK-7 at 180 micrograms a day for 3 years in 244 postmenopausal women slowed bone density loss at the spine and femoral neck,
but fracture outcomes were not measured, and people on warfarin must ask their doctor first because vitamin K counteracts the drug
(Knapen 2013).
Vitamin K adds carboxyl groups that let osteocalcin bind calcium, but no human trial shows it lowers arterial calcification or fractures,
and calcium L-threonate has no human evidence of being better than other forms.
4. Two-meal IF after 50: how to plan protein without losing muscle
Direct answer: healthy older adults should get 1.0–1.2 g of protein per kg of body weight per day, about 25–30 g per meal.
A 45 kg woman therefore needs about 45–55 g a day; with two meals, each needs about 25 g or more
(PROT-AGE 2013).
IF and muscle
In the TREAT trial, adults with overweight eating 16:8 for 12 weeks lost no more weight than those eating three meals, but the IF group lost more appendicular lean mass.
For a postmenopausal woman already at a normal weight, cutting meals mainly risks too little protein and calcium rather than helping weight.
If you keep IF, make the window cover both main meals and do strength training 2–3 times a week
(Lowe 2020).
Table: sample two-meal IF day at about 45 kg
Protein values are estimates for cooked food. Adjust for conditions such as kidney disease, and ask your doctor before raising protein.
| Meal | Protein target | Example | Calcium source |
|---|---|---|---|
| First meal (e.g. 11:00) | About 25 g | 2 eggs (about 12 g) plus 50–60 g cooked fish or chicken | 1 glass of milk or calcium-fortified soy milk |
| Second meal (e.g. 18:00) | About 25–30 g | 100 g cooked chicken breast or fish (about 25–30 g) with leafy greens | Firm tofu, Chinese kale, or small whole fish |
| Fasting window | None | Drink enough water to lower the chance of lightheadedness from dehydration | If you take calcium carbonate, move it to a meal |
And “the body breaks down bone to replace protein” is not the right mechanism. When protein is short, muscle declines, which raises the chance of falls and fractures.
5. Knee noise on the stairs, and evening lightheadedness with blood pressure
Direct answer: knee noise without pain or swelling is common, but noise that becomes more frequent is linked to symptomatic knee osteoarthritis later.
Blood pressure should be measured at home systematically, because home readings separate true high blood pressure from temporary rises
(Lo 2018,
AHA/ACC 2025).
Knee crepitus
In the Osteoarthritis Initiative, among 3,495 people without symptomatic osteoarthritis, those reporting knee noise more often had higher odds of developing symptomatic knee osteoarthritis,
with odds ratios of about 1.5 to 3.0 by frequency. Knee noise is a cue to start caring for the muscles around the knee, not a sign that the joint is already damaged.
Knee care
- Train the front thigh muscles, for example seated knee extensions held for a few seconds or slow sit-to-stands from a chair, 2–3 times a week
- Train balance, such as standing on one leg near a support, to cut falls, which matters for anyone with a past fracture
- Walking still helps bone; if stairs hurt, reduce the number of steps for a while rather than stopping walking
Measure home blood pressure so the readings are usable
The 2025 AHA/ACC guideline classes 130–139/80–89 mmHg as stage 1 hypertension and 140/90 or higher as stage 2.
Evening lightheadedness can come from high blood pressure, a drop in pressure on standing, or dehydration during the fasting window, so measure both blood pressure and pulse when it happens.
Readings of 180/120 or higher with symptoms mean going to hospital now; repeated readings of 140/90 mean booking a doctor.
6. Comparing options after menopause: medicines, supplements and habits
Direct answer: the options that reduced fractures in trials are osteoporosis medicines and, for suitable women, hormone therapy; supplements play a supporting role.
The North American Menopause Society states that for women under 60 or within 10 years of menopause without contraindications, the benefits of hormone therapy outweigh the risks,
including prevention of bone loss and fracture
(NAMS 2022,
Eastell 2019).
Table: comparing medicines, supplements and habits
Medicines are listed by generic name only; use them only as prescribed by your own doctor.
| Option | What it helps | Evidence | Cautions |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bisphosphonates (alendronate, risedronate, zoledronic acid) or denosumab | Fewer fractures in people at high risk | Eastell 2019 | Dental and kidney checks needed; prescription only |
| Hormone therapy (estradiol, plus a progestogen if the uterus is present) | Prevents bone loss, eases hot flashes, raises skin collagen | NAMS 2022, Calleja-Agius 2012 | Review breast cancer, clot and blood pressure risks with a doctor first |
| Collagen peptides | Slightly better skin hydration and elasticity | de Miranda 2021, König 2018 | No fracture data; benefit fades when stopped |
| Undenatured type II collagen 40 mg/day | Lower pain and stiffness scores in knee osteoarthritis | Lugo 2016 | Did not measure joint noise; does not rebuild cartilage |
| Calcium from food, supplementing only the gap | Reach close to 1,200 mg/day | Bolland 2015, NIH ODS | Total no more than 2,000 mg/day, about 500 mg per dose |
| Vitamin D3 | Corrects deficiency; paired with osteoporosis medicine | LeBoff 2022: no fracture reduction in the general population | Avoid high doses without checking levels |
| Vitamin K2 (MK-7) | Slowed bone density loss in one trial | Knapen 2013 | No fracture data; counteracts warfarin |
| Strength and balance training with enough protein | Keeps muscle, cuts falls, supports the knee | PROT-AGE 2013, Eastell 2019 | Start light; stop for chest pain or faintness |
| Home blood pressure checks and less salt | Confirms true high blood pressure and tracks treatment | AHA/ACC 2025 | Use an upper-arm monitor with a properly sized cuff |
Myths worth correcting
Taking collagen repairs knee cartilage
Collagen is digested into amino acids and short peptides before absorption. Trials measured pain and stiffness and did not show worn cartilage growing back.
Calcium L-threonate is better than other calcium
It is about 13% elemental calcium, and no randomized human trial has measured its effect on bone density or fractures.
K2 stops calcium from depositing in arteries
This mechanism comes from laboratory and animal work. No human trial shows K2 lowers arterial calcification or heart disease.
Blood pressure above 140/90 means you need a bone scan right away
Blood pressure and bone density testing are separate. Bone testing depends on age, fracture history and other risk factors.
After menopause, bone and cartilage drop 30% in 5 years
SWAN found the spine lost about 10.6% over 10 years around menopause. The 30% figure comes from early skin collagen studies, not bone.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Two years after menopause my skin is very dry. Why, and does collagen help?
Estrogen stimulates collagen production in skin, and after menopause skin collagen and thickness fall by about 1–2% a year, so skin becomes thinner and drier. A meta-analysis of 19 trials found hydrolyzed collagen taken for about 90 days improved hydration and elasticity more than placebo. The effect is modest, so use it alongside moisturizer and sunscreen.
I had a fracture after menopause. What should I take for my bones?
The first step is a doctor’s assessment with DXA and FRAX, because a prior fracture raises the chance of another about 1.86-fold. If risk is high, osteoporosis medicines such as bisphosphonates or denosumab reduce fractures. Get close to 1,200 mg of calcium a day from food and supplement only the gap, and take vitamin D when you are deficient or when a doctor pairs it with treatment.
Which calcium is better: carbonate, citrate or L-threonate?
Look at elemental calcium. Carbonate is about 40% and needs food; citrate is about 21% and can be taken on an empty stomach; L-threonate is about 13% and has no randomized human trials measuring bone outcomes. Whatever the form, take no more than about 500 mg per dose and no more than 2,000 mg a day in total.
Do I need vitamin D3 and K2?
The VITAL trial in 25,871 adults found 2,000 IU of vitamin D3 a day did not reduce fractures in people who were not deficient, so vitamin D matters when you are low. Vitamin K2 as MK-7 at 180 micrograms a day slowed bone density loss over 3 years, but there are no fracture data, and do not start it on your own if you take warfarin.
How much protein do I need on two-meal IF?
The PROT-AGE group recommends 1.0–1.2 g of protein per kg per day for healthy older adults, about 25–30 g per meal. A 45 kg woman should get about 45–55 g a day, for example 2 eggs with a little fish or chicken at the first meal and 100 g of cooked chicken breast or fish at the second. People with kidney disease should ask their doctor before raising protein.
Does IF cause muscle or bone loss?
The TREAT trial found 16:8 eating for 12 weeks did not beat three meals for weight loss but lost more appendicular lean mass. For a postmenopausal woman at a normal weight, cutting meals risks too little protein and calcium. If you keep IF, make each meal protein-rich and do strength training 2–3 times a week.
Is knee noise on the stairs dangerous?
Knee noise without pain or swelling is common, but a study of 3,495 people found that more frequent noise was linked to higher odds of symptomatic knee osteoarthritis later. Train your thigh muscles and balance, and see a doctor if the knee swells, feels hot, locks or gives way.
When should evening lightheadedness with borderline blood pressure send me to hospital?
Go to hospital now or call emergency services for blood pressure of 180/120 mmHg or higher with a severe headache, chest pain, breathlessness or blurred vision, or for facial droop, one-sided weakness or slurred speech. If home readings are 130/80 or higher again and again, record morning and evening for at least 7 days and book a doctor, and add a standing reading if you feel dizzy on rising.
Scientific Mechanism
Estrogen and collagen: skin fibroblasts and bone-forming cells carry estrogen receptors. When estrogen falls, type I collagen synthesis drops
while bone-resorbing cells become more active, so skin and bone thin together because they share the same connective-tissue biology
(Brincat 1987,
Calleja-Agius 2012).
The chemistry of ingested collagen: collagen is a triple-helix protein rich in glycine, proline and hydroxyproline. Hydrolyzed collagen is cut into short peptides;
some, such as prolyl-hydroxyproline, reach the blood and may signal fibroblasts to make collagen. Undenatured type II collagen keeps its three-dimensional structure
and is thought to act through gut immune tolerance, not as raw material for cartilage
(de Miranda 2021,
Lugo 2016).
Vitamin K and osteocalcin: vitamin K is the cofactor of gamma-glutamyl carboxylase, which adds carboxyl groups to glutamic acid residues of osteocalcin
so it can bind calcium ions in bone matrix. The MK-7 trial therefore used the ratio of uncarboxylated osteocalcin as a marker of vitamin K status
(Knapen 2013).
Protein and muscle: muscle protein synthesis in older adults needs more essential amino acids, especially leucine, per meal than in young adults,
so about 25–30 g of protein per meal stimulates it better than spreading protein thinly. Strong muscle supports the joints and cuts falls
(PROT-AGE 2013).
Compiled and reviewed by Asst. Prof. Dr. Norawit Raatpiboon
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Medical Disclaimer
This article gives general educational information on skin, bone, joints, protein and blood pressure in postmenopausal women. It is not a diagnosis, a prescription or a personal treatment plan.
Medicines are named by generic name for education only. Do not start, change or stop any medicine or hormone without your own doctor.
Supplements can interact with medicines, for example vitamin K with anticoagulants. In an emergency, call your local emergency number (1669 in Thailand).